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sollner11



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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:31 am
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someting new? (like a beta or so)
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JonathanOSX
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:44 am
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We are getting very close to an open beta for Vine Server 3.0; the best way to be notified is to stay watching this forum topic.
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dk831



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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:22 pm
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Hi

I was wondering how this fix was going along. I've had a few instances where not being able to log in from the login window at start up have been an issue (after updates and such).

Thanks!! Very Happy
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nospamboz
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Joined: 27 Nov 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:05 am
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Until Vine Server is updated for Leopard and can access the login
screen, I've come up with a workaround.

Simply use Leopard's own VNC server, also known as "Screen Sharing",
to do a login. This is accessed via "System Preferences">"Sharing" and
selecting "Screen Sharing", being sure to enable VNC viewing with
a password via "Computer Settings".

Yes, Apple's VNC server is slow and doesn't support 8-bit mode
(so make sure your viewer doesn't use it) and not as configurable
as Vine Server, but at least it lets you log in. Once logged in,
Vine Server can start up on its own (be sure not to use Apple VNC
Server's port 5900), and you can disable "Screen Sharing" and
go on as normal.

This is quite useful if you need to reboot your Mac remotely. Before
you do enable "Screen Sharing", reboot, login in remotely using
Apple's server, start up Vine Server, then disable "Screen Sharing".

I'm looking forward to a single source solution, though.
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JonathanOSX
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:07 pm
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Vine 3.0 Public Beta is out -- please see this topic for download link and notes:

http://www.redstonesoftware.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=867
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ptackbar
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:20 pm
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My Vine Viewer 2.0 license key does not work with this beta. Should it?
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JonathanOSX
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:17 pm
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D'oh!

Here is a trial key for Vine Viewer 3.0 Beta:

Key: i7e9-pdjt-lan0-u9m4-oxt4-g
Valid Until: 19-December-2007
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ptackbar
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:28 pm
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Thanks Jonathan. That trial key worked for me (sort of...see below).

I really like the changes that have been made in the Vine Server. It feels much more polished.

I've found what seem to be three bugs. Two in Vine Viewer and one in Vine Server (both running under Leopard). I'm not sure if this is the best place to report it but I figure it can't hurt.

Vine Viewer:

I'm able to connect to several VNC servers on Windows machines but I am not able to connect to my wife's MacBook (running the default Apple Remote Desktop server set to accept VNC passwords). It worked fine in Vine Viewer 2 but when I try to connect with v3 beta I get this error:

Connection failed: Apple Remote Desktop is not configured. Please configure it so VNC viewers may control the screen. (There don't seem to be any error messages logged in the console.)

I can connect to her MacBook fine using the "share screen" function from within the Finder as well as with JollyFastVNC and Chicken of the VNC.

In addition, each time I start Vine Viewer 3 Beta I get a "Licenses Are All In Use" despite using the license key you posted. I have to re-add the license key each time I open the program.

Vine Server:

For some reason when running in user mode (not as a system service) version 3 of the Vine Server does not obey the "hide" checkbox when set to start on login. Each time I login, the server starts but is not hidden.
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JonathanOSX
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:34 pm
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This is the perfect place for bug reports and a heartfelt THANK-YOU!

The licensing thing is a bug and believe it or not we've already fixed it.

I'll find the ARD config problem -- I think I know what is causing that.

I also know what's causing the not hiding when auto-started, it's an artifact of the bug fix for Leopard wanting to bring up an icon for the underlying server. Time for a counter-bug-fix-fix, /sigh -- I think there is an argument I can detect for the auto-hide.

Keep'em coming and we'll keep fixing!
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sramdeen



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:02 am
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Am I being really dense? I can't seem to get VineServer 3 in Leopard to behave like VineServer 2 used to in Tiger.
I am trying to launch the server at the loginwindow (no logged in user). I understand that Leopard now has an additional layer of security build into it to prevent this from happening with certain apps, but I thought that one of the big features of Vine Server 3 was that it was supposed to be able to be launched from the loginwindow? I have tried launching in the traditional sense:
Code:

/Applications/VineServer.app/OSXvnc-server -rfbport 5902

and also via launchd
Code:

launchctl bsexec 58 /Applications/VineServer.app/OSXvnc-server -rfbport 5902

where 58 was the pid of the loginwindow.

Both result in error:
Code:

Untrusted apps are not allowed to connect to or launch Window Server before login.



Am I doing something obviously wrong?

Thanks

Stu
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